Leonard : Hai
NkSagar How U Theology ?
Leonard : What are you trying to ssk me.
Nksagar : Experts achieved. U Like share.
Leonard I am reading a few chapters of A. Bailey`s Esoteric Astrology at the moment!
Nksagar : Knowing analytically planets is important? Is it right? Putting them on theperson as subject foretel U all abt person and infinity.
Nksagar Am i right or wrong?
Leonard : Yes! In esoteric astrology one deals with the Life and Lives which inform the “points of light” within the universal Life. Constellations solar systems, planets, kingdoms in nature, and microscopic man, all of them the result of the activity and the manifestation of energy, of certain Lives, whose cycle of expression, and whose infinite purposes, lie outside the comprehension of the most advanced and illumined minds on our planet.
Leonard Reader: In other words Yes all the planets in our solar system play a major role in esoteric astrology as transmitters of energies and forces which influences our planet!
Nksagar : With little maths movement trigonometry and position placement
Nksagar : Can we read quake or techtonic shift in plate with planets movement. R U science or spiritual only
Leonard Reader: Alice Bailey`s esoteric astrology is very advanced and is much more then just determining what lies ahead in ones future. This type of astrology in its highest aspect and its true interpretation, will enable humanity eventually to focus his understanding, and to function rightly, is equally true. That in the revelations that astrology will make in time to come will be found the secret of the true co-ordination between soul and form, is also correct. But that astrology is not yet to be found. Too much is overlooked and too little known, to make astrology the exact science that many claim it is. The claim will be fulfilled at some future date, but the time is not yet.. The claims of the astrologers as to the reality of the energies playing upon the human organism, can be seen to be true; their claims as to their capacity to interpret, are for the most part unfounded. So little is really known by the highest intelligence on the planet; for forget not, that the wise ones utilise primarily the intuition.
The energy of the particular constellation or sign in which a man is born, is more deeply significant than has ever yet been suggested. It embodies or indicates his present problem, sets the pace or tempo of his life, and is related to the quality of his personality. It governs, if I may so express it, the activity aspect of his life during incarnation. So with all this said: What is the major significance of it all?
Leonard :important point to grasp in relation too esoteric astrology is the occult fact that there is an ether of space, which is the field through which the energies from the many originating Sources play. We are, therefore, concerned with the etheric body of the planet, of the solar system, and of the seven solar systems of which our system is one, as well as with the general and vaster etheric body of the universe, in which we are located. I employ the word “located” here with deliberation, and because of the inferences to which it leads. This vaster field, as well as the smaller and more localised fields, provides the medium of transmission for all the energies which play upon and through our solar system, our planetary spheres, and all forms of life upon these spheres. It forms one unbroken field of activity, in constant, ceaseless motion – an eternal medium for the exchange and transmission of energies. In connection with this, and in order more correctly to understand, it will be useful to study the individual person; in this way we can arrive at a faint comprehension of the basic and underlying truth. Students should never forget the Law of Analogy as an interpretive agency. Esotericism teaches (and modern science is rapidly arriving at the same conclusion), that underlying the physical body and its comprehensive and intricate system of nerves, is a vital or etheric body, which is the counterpart and the true form, of the outer and tangible phenomenal aspect. It is likewise the medium for the transmission of force to all parts of the human frame, and the agent of the indwelling life and consciousness. It determines and conditions the physical body, for it is itself the repository and the transmitter of energy from the various subjective aspects of man, and also from the environment in which man (both inner and outer man) finds himself. Two other points should be added. First: the individual etheric body is not an isolated and separated human vehicle but is, in a peculiar sense, an integral part of the etheric body of that entity, which we have called the human family; this kingdom in nature, through its etheric body, is an integral part of the planetary etheric body; the planetary etheric body is not separated off from the etheric bodies of other planets, but all of them in their totality, along with the etheric body of the sun, constitute the etheric body of the solar system. This is related to the etheric bodies of the six solar systems which, with ours, form a cosmic unity, and into these pour energies and forces from certain great constellations. The field of space is etheric in nature, and its vital body is composed of the totality of etheric bodies of all constellations, solar systems and planets which are found therein. Throughout this cosmic web, there is a constant circulation of energies and forces, and this constitutes the scientific basis of the astrological theories. Just as the forces of the planet and of the inner spiritual man (to mention only one factor among many), pour through the etheric body of the individual man upon the physical plane, and condition his outer expression, activities, and qualities, so do the varying forces of the universe pour through every part of the etheric body of that entity we call space, and condition and determine the outer expression, the activities and qualities of every form found within the cosmic periphery. So yes you can read quake or tectonic shifts with not only the movements of the planets, but also the movements of other constellations, solar systems, and galaxies.
Leonard : Do you understand that EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED and that EVERY OTHER THING INFLUENCES EVERYTHING?
Need to explain various subjects simultaneously to best of perfection and not in general or common sense because the science is not straight, change from space to space.
Nksagar : Spiritual science says so but need scientific affirmation.
Nksagar : Infinity exploration begins from man to planet solar constellation etc.
Leonaed: If you study man from the perspective that there is only ONE THING present in existence, called the Field, the Continuum; which is all that is manifest which is the expressing of this continuum, it must necessarily follow that this One Thing is now reading the communication it earlier composed to itself. That if there is a conversation anywhere, it is the One Thing talking to Itself. If there is a conjoining, it is the One Thing coupling with Itself. If there is a dispute, it is the One Thing at odds with Itself. If there is any ideation whatsoever, there is sentience, and that sentience pervades the boundless. Which simply means if there is any thinking going on anywhere in the immeasurable, it is the One Thing thinking it. Which is to say, the thing we call the Field, is a Sentient Field. If not the Field itself therefore ceases to be a thing, proving to be a Living Intelligence a Sentient Presence present throughout, an Omnipresent Being heard to state again and again, “I think, therefore I AM.” Thus if there is any thinking whatsoever, it is that One Indivisible Presence doing the thinking. There being no containment in the endless, there is no boundary to the thinking in it. And there is no escaping it, we are in a mind. All this, then is literally a living substantial thought-form in some great mind! And is all that is now going on in this field what it’s actively thinking? Ubiquitous MIND alone! Is this always the reality, thing, or person?
This is why the highest attainment in the East is the attainment of Nirvana, of “Nothingness” understood as no thing-ness or a most modest way of saying Omnipresent Self. And the whole array of this Self is apparently a noumenon in the Infinite Mind of that singular I AM. Thus every form a thought-form, every movement an ideation is all taking place in your Mind? Are you capable of studying infinity from this perspective? It is here that humanity must start to understand its relations with infinity.
Nksagar : So you are trying to define consciousness in scientific terminology continuum or field but people has expressed in ether but this cannot hold as space is absolute space fails in absolute time and force and energy etc
For absolute motion of field we need absolute time absolute space need to create to test ansolute motion for testing continuum field or consciousness.